Dimmed elliptical galaxies: a fundamental-plane search for harvested starlight
Revised after a second, separate analysis run for this project tried to break it. Neither analysis is an outside expert.
For grey, spatially uniform dimming at fixed mass, two fundamental-plane samples with no outlier clipping (114,210 SDSS r-band and 8,856 6dFGSv J-band early-type galaxies) give 95% upper limits on the fraction of bright early types missing a fraction f of their light of 2.8% at f=0.5 (2.4-3.8% across selection variants), 0.29% at f=0.75 (0.24-0.45%; 1.4% under pessimistic S/N scaling) and 0.90% at f=0.9 (resting on only 689 nearby, bright, high-surface-brightness galaxies and vanishing under pessimistic S/N); a population spread over f=0.5-0.9 is bounded at 3.4-3.8%, and dropping the red …
Summary
For grey, spatially uniform dimming at fixed mass, two
fundamental-plane samples with no outlier clipping (114,210 SDSS r-band
and 8,856 6dFGSv J-band early-type galaxies) give 95% upper limits on
the fraction of bright early types missing a fraction f of their light
of 2.8% at f=0.5 (2.4-3.8% across selection variants), 0.29% at f=0.75
(0.24-0.45%; 1.4% under pessimistic S/N scaling) and 0.90% at f=0.9
(resting on only 689 nearby, bright, high-surface-brightness galaxies
and vanishing under pessimistic S/N); a population spread over f=0.5-0.9
is bounded at 3.4-3.8%, and dropping the red colour edge gives
2.9%/0.34%/0.90%. These are limits on light, not stars: cloaking all
dwarfs and subgiants of an old population removes only about 20-36% of
the light (Lacki 2019), where the limit is 7-17% of galaxies or absent,
and f above about 0.93 or physical removal of stars is unconstrained.
Spheres dimmed by 50% (30%) and placed uniformly in volume fill less
than 0.39/0.47/0.83% (2.9/2.7/1.2%) of the SDSS volume for R=5/10/20
Mpc, but for R<=10 Mpc this is extrapolated from the 0.05-3% of the
volume (100-900 sphere volumes, mostly z<0.08) actually tested;
galaxy-weighted, fewer than 0.1-1.2% of sample galaxies lie in such
regions. The most significant dim spheres all sit on catalogued rich
clusters; 44% of the Coma sphere's 0.10 dex deficit is finger-of-god
plus photometry, the rest has the sign and rough size of the
environmental offset of the plane (cause not established), and ACO 2593
keeps an unexplained ~15% deficit about twice that trend. The first-pass
individual-galaxy numbers survive unchanged (the referee reproduced
them); the claims around them are narrower.
none has mid-IR excess: for 23 unexplained outliers waste-heat ratio
gamma(300 K)<=0.064 profile-fit, <=0.12 largest AllWISE aperture;
gamma(150 K)<=0.18 / <=0.62; expected about 2 or more for
f>=0.65
Red-side colour check (galaxies redder than the selection
window)
1,222 of 132,662; 49 / 5 / 2 at dI<=-0.30/-0.45/-0.60; only 2 are
>0.2 mag beyond the edge
both of those 2 are photometric artefacts on inspection
no population of reddened, under-luminous early types hidden by the
colour cut
Howlett+22 clipped catalogue: eligible SDSS outliers expected vs
present
9 eligible of 52, 6.1 expected, 0 present
binomial p=3.3e-5, Poisson p=0.0021
confirms published FP catalogues remove dim outliers; at
dI<=-0.30: 125 eligible, 85 expected, 48 present
SDSS region limit, 50% dimmed spheres, filling fraction (R=5/10/20
Mpc)
<0.39% / <0.47% / <0.83%
Monte Carlo 5% / 3% / 1%; weaker of rules A and B quoted
tested share of survey volume 0.36% / 2.4% / 48% (762 / 643 / 1,590
sphere volumes); assumes spheres placed uniformly in volume; number
density <7.5e3 / 1.1e3 / 250 per Gpc^3; galaxy-weighted <0.13% /
0.32% / 1.1%
SDSS region limit, 30% dimmed spheres, filling fraction (R=5/10/20
Mpc)
ACO 2593 corresponds to ~15% apparent dimming, about 2.8 sigma above
the environmental trend, no group redshifts available; not
explained
Coherent rms of FP residual on sphere scale (SDSS, R=5/10/20
Mpc)
0.016 / 0.015 / 0.010 dex
shuffle-based
linear-theory bulk flows give 0.02 dex at z=0.02 and 0.005 dex at
z=0.08, so peculiar velocities account for a comparable amount
Data used
SDSS spectroscopic galaxy sample: photometry, de Vaucouleurs fits,
velocity dispersions and line indices via SDSS SkyServer SQL (parent
221,433 galaxies)
Howlett et al. (2022) SDSS peculiar-velocity fundamental-plane
catalogue (group redshifts, clipped sample for comparison)
6dFGSv fundamental-plane tables, Campbell et al. (2014) via VizieR
(full and published samples)
AllWISE source catalogue via IRSA TAP (profile-fit and aperture
W3/W4 photometry for outliers) and VizieR cross-match
SIMBAD TAP: catalogued galaxy clusters for sphere identifications
and cluster centres
Legacy Survey / SDSS image cutouts for visual vetting of outliers
(notes recorded in code/vetting_manual.csv and
code/redside_manual.csv)
Literature values only: Lacki (2019) cloaked-population light
fractions; Annis (1999); Zackrisson et al. (2015)
Method
Rebuilt two early-type samples without FP outlier clipping: SDSS
DR-based r-band sample (de Vaucouleurs radii, sigma,
colour/concentration/EW/S-N cuts; 114,210 galaxies, z=0.02-0.12) and the
full 6dFGSv J-band table (8,856, clipped objects restored). Fitted the
plane in the surface-brightness direction by truncated-normal maximum
likelihood with a redshift term; residual dI shifts by log10(1-f) under
dimming. For each f, every sample galaxy was dimmed and passed through
all flux-dependent cuts (magnitude limit, S/N, sigma error, colour, EW)
to get the number of surviving twins N_eff and the fraction recovered
below four pre-specified thresholds; limits are Bonferroni-corrected
Poisson upper limits on the observed count divided by the effective
number, with all outliers counted as candidates (conservative) or after
visual/catalogue vetting. Variants: magnitude limit, EW boost, linear
S/N scaling, stricter quality cuts, no red colour edge, E/S0 only,
Faber-Jackson. A linear programme bounds mixtures over f. Outliers were
vetted with images, catalogue flags and AllWISE profile-fit and aperture
photometry (waste-heat ratio). Regions: standardised residuals summed in
spheres of 5/10/20 Mpc on a grid, shuffle null (300), 30k-300k injected
dimmed spheres per case for sensitive volume; limits by rule A (beyond
observed minimum) and rule B (fixed S<-5 with Poisson limit on
observed count), quoting the weaker, with tested volume share, sphere
volumes, detection redshifts, Monte Carlo errors and a galaxy-weighted
version. Dim spheres were cross-identified with SIMBAD clusters,
decomposed into finger-of-god (group redshifts from Howlett+22),
photometry and remainder, and compared with catalogue-centred spheres
and the environmental trend.
Closest prior work and what
is new
Closest prior work. Annis (1999, JBIS 52, 33) used
the fundamental plane of ~100 ellipticals (and Tully-Fisher for spirals)
to find no galaxy dimmed by more than ~75%; Zackrisson et al. (2015, ApJ
810, 23) did the Tully-Fisher analogue for 1,359 spirals (<~3% with
>=75% dimming) and Calissendorff (2013 thesis) its precursor; Lacki
(2019, 'Sunscreen') modelled the non-grey colour and luminosity
signature of partial cloaking; Chen & Garrett (2021) and Griffith et
al. (2015) are the waste-heat counterparts; Howlett et al. (2022) and
Campbell et al. (2014) are the FP catalogues used, which clip outliers
for peculiar-velocity work.
What is new. To my knowledge the first FP dimming
test at the 10^5-galaxy scale with (i) samples rebuilt without any FP
outlier clipping (and a demonstration with expected counts that
published catalogues remove exactly the objects sought), (ii)
selection-corrected limits as a function of f with every flux-dependent
cut modelled, a mixture bound, and a check for reddened objects outside
the colour window, and (iii) a quantified search for coherently dimmed
5-20 Mpc regions with injection-based limits, tested-volume accounting
and a galaxy-weighted version. I did not find a prior FP-based region
search or selection-corrected FP dimming limit, but the literature
search was limited to ADS/arXiv-level queries, so an unpublished or
obscure equivalent cannot be excluded.
Confidence that it is new: medium
Limitations
The test constrains grey, spatially uniform dimming of the light
inside the effective aperture at fixed sigma and R_e. Selective cloaking
of low-mass stars removes only ~20-36% of the bolometric light of an old
population (Lacki 2019), a range where the limit is 7-17% of galaxies or
absent, so harvesting of main-sequence stars is at best weakly
constrained.
No constraint for f above ~0.93 (galaxy drops out of the
spectroscopic sample), for f below ~0.3 (inside the scatter of the
plane), for physical removal of stars (sigma falls too), or for dimming
confined to the outskirts.
The f=0.9 limit rests on 689 nearby (z<0.05), bright
(r<=15.1), high-surface-brightness galaxies and vanishes if spectral
S/N scales linearly with flux; the f=0.75 limit weakens to 1.4% under
that assumption. The true S/N scaling for a dimmed galaxy is assumed,
not measured.
Limits apply to bright, red, spectroscopically early-type galaxies
in the survey magnitude range (roughly L* and above); they say nothing
about dwarfs, spirals or z>0.12.
Region limits assume spheres placed uniformly at random in comoving
volume and uniformly dimmed members. For R<=10 Mpc only 0.05-3% of
the SDSS volume (100-900 sphere volumes, mostly z<0.08) was actually
tested; the quoted filling fractions extrapolate from that. If dimmed
regions prefer clusters or voids the limits change.
Rich clusters produce real negative residuals of 0.02-0.07 dex. 44%
of the Coma sphere's deficit is identified; the rest is compared with an
empirical environmental trend whose physical cause (age/M-L, structural
non-homology, residual redshift-space distortion) is not established
here. ACO 2593 keeps a ~15% deficit about twice that trend with no group
redshifts available to test finger-of-god.
Seventeen SDSS and six 6dFGSv outliers below -0.45 dex, including
five at >=75% apparent deficit, are not explained by the vetting
(visual inspection, partly manual notes). They show no mid-IR excess,
but no spectroscopic or imaging follow-up was done; the dim/bright
asymmetry beyond 0.60 dex (11 vs 1) is real in the catalogues and most
plausibly photometric or sigma error, which is not proven.
AllWISE aperture magnitudes are fixed circular apertures up to 24.75
arcsec radius, not matched elliptical photometry; for the nearest,
largest outliers some extended mid-IR flux may still be missed. Cold
(<100 K) radiators are not constrained by WISE at all; only the FP
deficit applies to them.
Effective radii and surface brightnesses are single-component
catalogue fits (SDSS de Vaucouleurs model, 2MASS-based 6dFGSv); no
re-measurement of photometry was made, and 6dFGSv velocity dispersions
have ~12% errors.
My reading of the light fractions in Lacki (2019) is approximate
(from figures and text), and is flagged as such in the report.
What it means for the
Fermi question
Within the local volume (z<0.12) and for bright early-type
galaxies, a civilisation that has enclosed half or more of its galaxy's
starlight in a grey, galaxy-wide way is rare: fewer than about 3% of
such galaxies at f=0.5 and fewer than about 0.3-1.4% at f=0.75,
independent of the temperature of the waste heat, which closes the
cold-radiator loophole of mid-infrared searches for that regime.
Combined with the mid-IR bounds on the surviving outliers, there is no
candidate Kardashev-III early-type galaxy in ~120,000 objects. The
constraint is much weaker than it sounds for the most plausible
engineering path: enclosing only long-lived low-mass stars removes
20-36% of the light and reddens the galaxy modestly, and that regime is
limited only to 7-17% of galaxies or not at all; complete cloaking
(f>0.93) removes the galaxy from the sample altogether. Expanding
spheres of dimmed galaxies of 5-20 Mpc radius with 30-50% dimming fill
less than about 1-3% of the volume if placed at random, but the
small-radius limits rest on a small tested volume and on the
uniform-placement assumption, and rich clusters mimic the signal at the
5-15% level, so the FP cannot by itself exclude modest (<~20%)
regional dimming. Net: the result removes the 'many galaxies are mostly
harvested' branch for massive early types locally, and leaves partial,
selective or complete harvesting open.
Changes made after the
referee report
Scope (referee 1): the summary, method and limitations now state
that the limits are for grey, spatially uniform dimming of light at
fixed mass; Lacki (2019) is cited and the 20-36% light loss for cloaking
all dwarfs and subgiants is set against the 7-17% or absent limits in
that range. The claim that the test covers star-harvesting generally was
withdrawn.
Red-side colour check (referee 1): new analysis of the 1,222
galaxies redder than the colour window (49/5/2 below -0.30/-0.45/-0.60
dex; the only two far beyond the edge are photometric artefacts), plus a
new 'no red colour edge' sample variant with full limits (2.9% / 0.34% /
0.90% at f=0.5/0.75/0.9). New figure figS1_redside.png.
Region limits (referee 2): injections raised from a few thousand to
300k/100k/30k per case so the weakest case has 55 detections instead of
7 (R=5 Mpc, f=0.3 limit moved from 2.3% to 2.9%); Monte Carlo errors,
tested share of survey volume, number of sphere volumes, 90th-percentile
detection redshift, number density and a galaxy-weighted limit are now
tabulated; the uniform-placement assumption is stated; rule B (fixed
threshold, Poisson limit on observed count) is named as the rigorous one
and the weaker of A and B is quoted. Fig. 3 gained a 'volume actually
tested' panel.
Mixture bound (referee 3): the statement '2.8% for any f in 0.5-0.9'
is replaced by a linear-programme bound of 3.4% (per-threshold) to 3.8%
(simultaneous) on the total over any distribution of f in 0.5-0.9.
Howlett+22 comparison (referee 4): '0 of 52' replaced by 9 eligible,
6.1 expected, 0 present (binomial p=3.3e-5, Poisson p=0.0021), with the
-0.30 dex comparison (85 expected, 48 present) added.
Cluster explanation (referee 5): 'largely explained' replaced by a
decomposition (44% identified as finger-of-god plus photometry;
remainder -0.055+-0.014 vs group-redshift trend -0.031+-0.007),
catalogue-centred spheres for Coma, ACO 2142 and ACO 2593, SIMBAD
identifications for all 15 top dim spheres, and the new inconvenient
finding that ACO 2593 keeps a ~15% deficit about twice the trend. Fig.
5b redrawn.
f=0.9 population (referee 6): described explicitly (689 galaxies,
0.6% of the sample, z<0.05, r<=15.1, high surface brightness, zero
survivors under linear S/N scaling); the same is given for f=0.5 and
f=0.75.
Tails (referee 7): new dim/bright tail table for both samples, rates
0.046% and 0.11% below -0.45 dex, the 11-vs-1 asymmetry beyond 0.60 dex,
and the five unexplained objects at >=75% apparent deficit named with
coordinates (S06, D02, D03, D04, D05).
WISE (referee 8): AllWISE aperture photometry fetched from IRSA for
all outliers; bounds on the waste-heat ratio are now given for both
profile-fit (0.064 / 0.18 at 300 / 150 K) and largest-aperture (0.12 /
0.62) photometry and labelled as such.
Citations and wording (referee 9): Chen & Garrett (2021) and
Calissendorff (2013) added; 'leaves little room' and similar phrases
replaced by numbers.
Code: new modules code/revision_checks.py and
code/report_numbers.py, new input code/redside_manual.csv, selection
cuts refactored into reusable masks in build_samples.py (sample verified
byte-identical to first pass), run_all.py extended to ten stages; three
full reruns with exit code 0 and deterministic outputs.
Referee points not accepted
None rejected outright; all nine required changes were made.
Qualification to point 1: for cloaking of all dwarfs and subgiants
the r-band loss is probably nearer 40% than the bolometric 20-36% (my
approximate reading of Lacki 2019, flagged as approximate in the
report), where the limit is about 7% of galaxies rather than absent. The
constraint on that scenario is therefore weak, not nil.
Qualification to point 4: the binomial probability (3.3e-5) for zero
of nine eligible outliers appearing in Howlett+22 is kept alongside the
more conservative Poisson figure (0.0021); both support the statement
that the published catalogue removes dim outliers.
The individual-galaxy headline limits (2.8% / 0.29% / 0.90%) are
unchanged; the referee's independent recomputation reproduced them, and
the revision narrows the claims around them rather than the
numbers.
Figures
The ten galaxies in the 6dFGSv sample whose surface brightness is at most about a third of what the fundamental plane predicts (the plane is the tight relation between an elliptical galaxy’s size, the speeds of its stars and its brightness). Each image carries the reason found on inspection, such as a spiral or a star-forming disc; those in bold have no such explanation. The main limits count every galaxy this faint, explained or not, and a tighter variant counts only those in bold. Open at full size.The 52 galaxies in the SDSS sample whose surface brightness is at most about a third of what the fundamental plane predicts. Most are two overlapping galaxies, mergers, edge-on discs or bad measurements. Those labelled in bold have no such explanation. The main limits count every galaxy this faint, explained or not, and a tighter variant counts only those in bold. Open at full size.Figure 1. How far each galaxy’s surface brightness lies above or below the fundamental plane, for the SDSS sample (left) and the 6dFGSv sample (right). The dashed lines show where galaxies missing 50, 75 or 90 per cent of their starlight would be centred. The published catalogues (orange) have lost much of the faint tail in which such galaxies would sit, most clearly in the SDSS sample, which is why the samples were rebuilt without clipping (blue). Open at full size.Figure 2. Left: the 95% upper limit on the fraction of early-type galaxies that are missing a given fraction of their light, from each sample and cross-check, with the earlier results of Annis (1999) and Zackrisson and colleagues (2015) marked. Right: the fraction of each sample that would still pass the selection cuts after being dimmed, which falls steeply beyond 80 per cent. Open at full size.Figure 3. The search for whole regions of dimmed galaxies. Left: a statistic measuring whether the galaxies inside spheres 10 megaparsecs in radius are jointly too faint, observed (blue) and with the values shuffled among galaxies (black). Centre: the 95% upper limits on the share of space filled by dimmed spheres, in each survey. Right: the share of each survey’s volume in which such a sphere would have been detected, which is small for the smaller spheres. Open at full size.Figure 4. Maps of the two surveys by position on the sky and redshift (distance), coloured by the mean departure from the fundamental plane of the galaxies within 10 megaparsecs; red is fainter than predicted. The circles mark the five most significant faint regions in each survey. In the SDSS map each of them contains a catalogued cluster of galaxies, and the most significant is the Coma cluster. Open at full size.Figure 5. Left: the more crowded a galaxy’s surroundings, the lower it lies against the fundamental plane, most clearly in the two SDSS samples, so a faint region in a cluster is not by itself unusual. Right: the most significant faint sphere, around the Coma cluster, broken into the part explained by the motions of galaxies inside the cluster, which distort their distances, the part explained by photometry, and the part that remains. Open at full size.Figure S1. The 1,222 galaxies that the colour cut excluded for being too red, by how far beyond the cut they lie and how far below the fundamental plane. A population dimmed by hiding its fainter stars would fall in the shaded region. Only two galaxies are there, and both turned out on inspection to be faults in the photometry. Open at full size.
Code
Every number above is produced by these scripts from public data. The data tables themselves are not hosted here; the scripts download them.
A second, separate analysis re-ran the code, recomputed the main numbers by its own route and tried to break the result. Like the first, it was run by Claude for this project; it is not an outside expert. In its report “the analyst” is the first analysis, which wrote the paper, and file names that are not linked on this page are its own working files. The paper above is the version revised in response.
Verdict: sound with fixes. Results reproduced:
yes.
Full rerun: copied code/ to scratch, pointed FP_KIII_RAW at a fresh
directory linked to the cached raw downloads, ran
python3 run_all.py --no-download single-threaded: 495 s,
exit code 0. All 16 output tables compared are byte-identical to the
analyst's (limits_final, limits_individual, limits_individual_best,
limits_regions, fp_fits.json, region_extreme_patches, env_trend,
survey_volume, candidates_*_vetted, etc.). Every number I checked in the
report matches those tables.
Raw data are re-downloadable: VizieR FPsample returns 11,102 rows,
Zenodo answers, and a fresh SkyServer pull of the RA 0-4 chunk equals
the cached copy after sorting (1,171 rows, max numeric difference 0).
SkyServer returned HTTP 500 on 2 of 6 requests, so a first-time download
relies on the retry loop.
Independent recomputation (own script from the 90 raw SDSS chunks;
own cuts, astropy distances, crude k-correction, clipped least-squares
plane instead of truncated ML, binned S/N table): sample 114,208 vs
114,210; tail at -0.45 / -0.60 dex 58 / 5 vs 52 / 6; N_eff 58,003 /
14,962 / 697 vs 57,746 / 14,853 / 689; 95% limits at f = 0.5 / 0.6 /
0.75 / 0.9 of 3.0% / 1.0% / 0.27% / 0.93% vs the analyst's 2.8% / 0.99%
/ 0.29% / 0.90%.
Independent region injections (own standardisation, sphere centred on
the injection point): Coma is the most extreme sphere at all three
radii; my sensitive volumes are 1.3-1.9 times the analyst's in 8 of 9
cases, so the analyst's region limits are on the conservative side.
Other checks that passed: units and zero points, 6dF RA in hours, 6dF
radii against catalogue kpc/h (0.0000 dex), no duplicated specObjID, no
chunk near a row cap, S/N model unbiased against the parent sample
without the S/N cut, Bonferroni and Poisson limits applied correctly.
The selection model is conservative: N_eff is set mainly by the
analyst's own surface-brightness-range requirement (at f = 0.9, 8,442
pass the magnitude limit and 701 pass that requirement). Citations
spot-checked in the source texts: Howlett+22 (34,059 galaxies; 503
outliers rejected at p < 0.01 after visual rejects), Zackrisson+15
(1,359 discs; 3% and 0.3%; "57 disk galaxies and 106 ellipticals" for
Annis), 6dFGSv ReadMe (criterion 6 is chi2 < 12). Annis's "137
galaxies" comes from a web-search summary of the BIS abstract page; I
did not open the page or the paper.
Strongest objection
The test measures missing light under a grey, uniform dimming model,
while the plausible harvesting strategy in an old stellar population is
neither grey nor light-weighted. Giants supply most of an elliptical's
light and are the hardest stars to enclose. In Lacki's (2019) model,
enclosing every dwarf and subgiant costs only about 20-36% of the light,
where this study has little or no power (17% limit at f = 0.3, nothing
below), and enclosing enough giants to reach f >= 0.5 makes the
galaxy more than a magnitude redder than the red sequence, which the
sample's colour window would exclude.
The conclusion survives in narrowed form. The numerical limits on the
fraction of early-type galaxies missing >= 50% of their r-band light
are correct for grey dimming, and my check of the 1,222 galaxies
excluded on the red side found no reservoir of very red, under-luminous
objects (49 at dI <= -0.30, only 2 of them more than 0.2 mag beyond
the red edge), so the non-grey case at f >= 0.5 is covered to a
similar level. What does not survive is the reading that galaxy-wide
star harvesting in ellipticals is tightly bounded: harvesting of all
main-sequence stars is essentially unconstrained here.
Errors found
major. The limits hold only for grey, spatially
uniform dimming of light, and the most relevant prior paper is not
cited. Lacki 2019 (PASP 131, 024102, arXiv:1807.00077) shows that
cloaking stars below a luminosity threshold in an old population is not
grey: cloaking all dwarfs and subgiants removes only about 20-36% of the
bolometric light (where this study's limit is 17% of galaxies or
absent), and cloaking enough giants to reach f >= 0.5 makes a
quenched galaxy more than a magnitude redder than the red sequence,
which the sample's 0.4 mag colour window would exclude. The headline
phrase 'regardless of where or whether the absorbed energy is
re-emitted' and the implication 'leaves little room for galaxy-wide
shrouding' therefore overreach.
Evidence: Lacki 2019 text: unscreened fraction 80-99.9% (L_min = 1
Lsun), 64-99.7% (10), 41-98% (100), 16-92% (1,000), quenched galaxies
fading most; 'quenched galaxies ... becoming over a magnitude redder or
more than the red sequence once the red clump is screened'. Referee
check of galaxies excluded on the red side (scripts/red_side.py): of
132,662 passing all non-colour cuts except D4000, 1,222 are redder than
the window; 49 have dI <= -0.30, 5 have dI <= -0.45; only 2 of the
49 are more than 0.2 mag beyond the red edge and one object (RA 216.587,
Dec +16.949, flagged photometry) is more than 0.5 mag beyond it with dI
<= -0.45. No hidden red, under-luminous population exists, so the
conclusion survives at f >= 0.5 once re-scoped.
Fix: State the grey, uniform-dimming assumption in the headline;
cite Lacki 2019; add the red-side check to the robustness section; say
the limits are on fractions of light, and that harvesting all
main-sequence stars of an old population (20-36% of light) is
essentially unconstrained.
major. Region filling-fraction limits for R = 5 and
10 Mpc are extrapolated from a small tested volume and the headline does
not say so. The limit is 3 (or the rule-B count limit) divided by the
number of sphere volumes in the sensitive volume, extended to the whole
survey by assuming uniform random placement. Monte Carlo errors are not
quoted.
Evidence: limits_regions.csv, rule A, f = 0.5: sensitive volume
4.7e5 / 2.8e6 / 4.0e7 Mpc^3 for R = 5 / 10 / 20 Mpc, i.e. 0.43% / 2.5% /
37% of the 1.1e8 Mpc^3 survey, or about 900 / 670 / 1,200 sphere
volumes, all in the densest parts. R = 5 Mpc, f = 0.3 rule-A efficiency
rests on 7 detections in 30,000 injections (about +-38%). In my
injections 90% of detections are below z of about 0.05-0.08 for R <=
10 Mpc.
Fix: Quote the tested share of the volume and number of sphere
volumes beside each filling fraction; say the figure assumes uniform
placement; change 'out to z = 0.12' to 'mostly below z of about 0.08'
for R <= 10 Mpc; add Monte Carlo errors; add a galaxy-weighted limit
(fraction of sample galaxies that can lie in such regions).
minor. The range statement 'fewer than 2.8% of
bright ETGs have any f between 0.5 and 0.9' takes the largest single-f
limit, which is not valid for a population spread over several f values.
Evidence: Linear programme over all thresholds
(scripts/mixture_lp.py): maximum total fraction 3.4% at the analyst's
per-threshold confidence, 3.8% with simultaneous coverage of all 28
thresholds. The f = 0.75-0.9 range statement (below 0.9%) holds at the
analyst's confidence (0.77%) and is 1.1% with simultaneous
coverage.
Fix: Change to 'fewer than about 3.5-4%' or restrict the statement
to single values of f.
minor. '0 of 52 SDSS galaxies at 0.45 dex or more
below the plane survive in Howlett+22' overstates the clipping
demonstration, because most of the 52 fail Howlett's other cuts anyway.
Evidence: Only 9 of the 52 pass r <= 17.0, z <= 0.1 and
EW(Halpha) < 1 A; with the 68% inclusion rate of such galaxies about
6.1 would be expected in the catalogue and 0 are (Poisson p about
0.002). At dI <= -0.30: 48 observed against about 85 expected. Part
of the removal is visual rejection, not the p < 0.01 clip.
Fix: Reword to 'of the 52, 9 pass Howlett+22's magnitude, redshift
and Halpha cuts; about 6 would be expected in the catalogue and none
is'.
minor. The headline says the cluster deficits are
'largely explained'; the tables support less than half identified, with
the rest attributed to an environmental trend by a partly circular
comparison.
Evidence: Coma sphere mean -0.099 dex: finger-of-god -0.032 and
photometry -0.011 (a 2-sigma measurement) = 44%. The remainder -0.055
dex is compared with the SDSS trend -0.049 +- 0.012, which uses
individual redshifts and so contains the finger-of-god effect; the
like-for-like group-redshift trend is -0.031 +- 0.007, leaving about
-0.024 +- 0.011 dex. The sphere was selected as the most extreme of
about 1e5, a selection bias not estimated. The report itself says the
cause of the trend is not established.
Fix: Headline: 'about 45% accounted for by finger-of-god and
photometry; the remainder has the sign and rough size of the
environmental offset of the plane, whose cause is not established'.
Compare the remainder with the group-redshift trend.
minor. The f = 0.9 limit (0.90%) describes an
unusual sub-population but is presented as applying to 'bright ETGs'.
Evidence: The 689 survivors are 0.6% of the sample: median z 0.030
(95% below 0.049), r <= 15.1, mean dI +0.127 dex (highest surface
brightness). The limit disappears under the pessimistic S/N
scaling.
Fix: Describe the tested population wherever the 0.90% figure
appears and keep the S/N caveat next to it.
minor. The far tail is asymmetric towards
under-luminous galaxies and this is not reported; 'the r-band and J-band
samples show the same tail shape' is loose.
Evidence: Beyond 0.45 dex: SDSS 52 dim / 59 bright, 6dFGSv 10 / 2.
Beyond 0.60 dex: SDSS 6 / 1, 6dFGSv 5 / 0. Five of the 11 beyond 0.6 dex
have no identified artefact (S06, D02, D03, D04, D05). Rate below -0.45
dex is 0.046% in SDSS and 0.11% in 6dFGSv.
Fix: Add the dim/bright table, name the five objects at an apparent
deficit of 75% or more, and replace 'same tail shape' with the two
rates.
minor. Waste-heat ratios use AllWISE profile-fit
(point-source) magnitudes for resolved galaxies, which underestimates
their mid-infrared flux.
Evidence: vet_candidates.py uses W3mag/W4mag from II/328; several
6dF candidates have R_e of 5-9 arcsec against a 6.5 arcsec W3 beam. The
correction could approach a factor of two; the conclusion (gamma <=
0.064 against an expected 2-3) is unaffected.
Fix: Label the gamma bounds as point-source values or use
extended-source photometry.
Overclaims
'regardless of where or whether the absorbed energy is re-emitted'
(true only for grey, uniform dimming; the colour window would exclude
non-grey dimming)
'leaves little room for galaxy-wide shrouding with f between 0.5 and
0.9' (a 3-4% ceiling at f = 0.5 is about 1 galaxy in 30, and the limit
is on light, not on the fraction of stars harvested)
'spheres dimmed by 50% fill less than 0.33-0.85% of the SDSS volume
(z=0.02-0.12)' (for R = 5 and 10 Mpc only 0.43% and 2.5% of the volume
was tested, mostly below z of about 0.08)
'fewer than 2.8% of bright ETGs have any f between 0.5 and 0.9'
(3.4-3.8% for a mixture of f values)
'0 of 52 SDSS galaxies ... survive in Howlett+22' (only 9 of the 52
were eligible; about 6 expected)
'largely explained by finger-of-god redshift errors, a small
photometric offset and the known environmental offset of the plane' (44%
identified; the environmental comparison is partly circular and its
cause is not established)
'The r-band and J-band samples ... show the same tail shape' (tail
rates differ by a factor of about 2.5; far tail is asymmetric towards
dim objects)
f = 0.9 limit of 0.90% presented for 'bright ETGs' (it rests on 689
nearby high-surface-brightness galaxies and vanishes under the
pessimistic S/N scaling)
Novelty check
Novel: partly. The method is Annis (1999);
Zackrisson+15 did the disc-galaxy version with a selection correction
and a WISE check of outliers. arXiv API and web searches (Kardashev with
fundamental plane, Faber-Jackson, peculiar velocity, early-type
galaxies, scaling relations) found no fundamental-plane search with a
modern large sample and no observational limit on coherently dimmed
multi-galaxy regions. So the FP limit from 1.1e5 galaxies with an
explicit N_eff(f) is a new quantitative result with an old method; the
clipping point is correct but is stated in the source papers themselves;
the WISE check follows Zackrisson+15; the region limits appear new.
Lacki 2019 (Sunscreen), which bears directly on the grey-dimming
assumption, is missing from the prior-work list, as are Chen &
Garrett 2021 and the Calissendorff thesis. The analyst's 'medium'
confidence is fair.
Annis 1999, JBIS 52, 33: scaling-relation test, 137 galaxies
(abstract); 57 discs and 106 ellipticals per Zackrisson+15
Zackrisson et al. 2015, arXiv:1508.02406: Tully-Fisher, 1,359 discs,
<~3% conservative, <~0.3% tentative at 75% dimming; converts
Annis's discs to <=4-6%
Lacki 2019, PASP 131, 024102, arXiv:1807.00077 (Sunscreen):
photometric signatures of partially cloaked galaxies; non-grey dimming
of old populations (not cited by the analyst)
Lacki 2016, arXiv:1604.07844; Griffith et al. 2015,
arXiv:1504.03418: waste-heat limits
Chen & Garrett 2021, arXiv:2108.06597: K-III search via
infrared-radio correlation in LoTSS (not cited)
Calissendorff 2013 BSc thesis: Tully-Fisher test on 4,859 spirals
(not cited)
Olson 2015, arXiv:1507.05969: predicts clusters of K3 galaxies are
likelier detections than isolated ones; no observational search
Required changes
Headline and Implications: replace 'regardless of where or whether
the absorbed energy is re-emitted' with 'for grey, spatially uniform
dimming, independent of the fate of the absorbed energy'; add that the
limits are on fractions of light and that cloaking all dwarfs and
subgiants of an old population removes only about 20-36% of the light
(Lacki 2019), where the limit is 17% or absent.
Cite Lacki 2019 (arXiv:1807.00077) in 'Closest prior work'; add the
red-side check (1,222 galaxies redder than the colour window; 49 / 5 / 2
at dI <= -0.30 / -0.45 / -0.60) to the Robustness section; change
'colour and D4000 are unchanged by grey dimming' to say the colour
window would exclude non-grey dimming and that the excluded galaxies
were examined.
Region limits (headline, results table, Implications): quote beside
each filling fraction the tested share of the survey volume (0.43% /
2.5% / 37% for R = 5 / 10 / 20 Mpc at f = 0.5) and the number of sphere
volumes tested (about 900 / 670 / 1,200); state the uniform-placement
assumption; change 'out to z = 0.12' to 'mostly below z of about 0.08'
for R <= 10 Mpc; add Monte Carlo errors (R = 5 Mpc, f = 0.3 rests on
7 detections in 30,000).
Add a galaxy-weighted region limit (fraction of sample galaxies that
can lie in such regions) from the galaxy-centred efficiencies already in
limits_regions.csv, and say rule B is the rigorous rule.
Results, sentence after the limits table: change 'fewer than 2.8% of
bright ETGs have any f between 0.5 and 0.9' to 'fewer than about 3.5-4%'
(mixture bound 3.4-3.8%), or restrict to single values of f.
Headline and novelty item (ii): change '0 of 52 ... survive in
Howlett+22' to 'of the 52, 9 pass Howlett+22's magnitude, redshift and
Halpha cuts; about 6 would be expected in the catalogue and none
is'.
Headline: change 'largely explained by finger-of-god redshift
errors, a small photometric offset and the known environmental offset'
to 'about 45% accounted for by finger-of-god and photometry; the
remainder has the sign and rough size of the environmental offset of the
plane, whose cause is not established'. In the Results bullet compare
the -0.055 dex remainder with the group-redshift trend (-0.031 +-
0.007), not the individual-redshift one.
Wherever the f = 0.9 limit (0.90%) appears, describe the tested
population (689 galaxies, z below 0.05, r <= 15.1, high surface
brightness) and keep the caveat that it disappears under the pessimistic
S/N scaling.
Add the dim/bright tail table (beyond 0.6 dex: 11 dim against 1
bright across both samples) and name S06, D02, D03, D04, D05 as the
objects with an apparent deficit of 75% or more and no identified
artefact; replace 'same tail shape' with the two rates (0.046% SDSS,
0.11% 6dFGSv below -0.45 dex).
Implications: replace 'leaves little room' with the numbers (at most
about 3-4% of bright early types at f of about 0.5, about 0.3% at f of
about 0.75).
Label the WISE gamma bounds as based on point-source (profile-fit)
magnitudes.